Too late, we already made Terraria canon. Besides, our alternative was another Piono session (And I can't say this with any tact so basically they're pretty self-centered) wherein a relatively large portion of the endgame kind of screwed up power levels. Piono climbed two rungs of the Echeladder and Scratch literally alchemized the Green Sun. ...Granted, we're probably going to get worse, but you're not stopping this. Plus the Godmodder is Alpha (...now), so that argument is invalid. Add in the fact that some people are already treating it as canon and... well, you're not stopping this anytime soon. Regardless, the main thing I'd argue about Tazz's theft is the fact that it will literally never matter... probably.
I haven't heard many complaints about being unable to charge during respawning, both in DTG2, 0 and Pain and Suffering. On the other hand, it is easy to die in P&S. I may leave it up to a vote, but personally, it doesn't feel that cheap in any DTG title. Then again, I've never died.
Two, Acolyte and P&S. Terraria had no good reason not to be canon and earned its way into canon so it would be hard to make it uncanon.
Alicia vs. The Acolyte place your bets!
*stands in a stall with odds marked on a chalkboard behind*
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He ate the bread that he made from stone
He fell from the Temple, never broke a bone
Bowed down to the Emperor and watched as former King was overthrown
Yeah, definite RvB vibes from Delta and Gamma, and possibly Sigma. Also, I'm Final, and I didn't mention anything about Godmodders in my post. You meant ConsumerOfAll.
He mentioned a different godmodder, to be fair. However, I think DTG3 should be an ending to Richard's story, rather than bringing in someone else.
Also, I'd go out on a limb and say that Terraria shouldn't be Canon, considering that A. it's a godmodder other than Richard, B. the powercreep was waaaay too apparent and C. We've had noncanon games before. We have another one going on right now!
Not an ending to Richard's story he's dead right now, or sort of.
I mean, it COULD be an end, but I have a PLN (P L N!) for using him for a potential future session. But it's far enough in the future that I'm going to wait to ask until nailing something like that down won't pre-empt anyone else from doing something with it.
Too late, we already made Terraria canon. Besides, our alternative was another Piono session (And I can't say this with any tact so basically they're pretty self-centered) wherein a relatively large portion of the endgame kind of screwed up power levels. Piono climbed two rungs of the Echeladder and Scratch literally alchemized the Green Sun. ...Granted, we're probably going to get worse, but you're not stopping this. Plus the Godmodder is Alpha (...now), so that argument is invalid. Add in the fact that some people are already treating it as canon and... well, you're not stopping this anytime soon. Regardless, the main thing I'd argue about Tazz's theft is the fact that it will literally never matter... probably.
@insert: tvtropes wasn't, it started out that way but then I fixed it, mspa was meant to be player-centric, and my goal was to shift my characters out of the limelight once the playerbase got settled.
Obviously, that never happened with the MSPA session, so I'm glad we never actually settled the argument on whether or not it was canon because seriously, as good as fseftr is, he didn't have enough to work with to fix the piono-centric nature of the plot.
As for the canonicity thing... yeah, if I'd known it would become canon, I would've been less absurd with the stuff I did early on. Considering the power creep in that session is entirely my fault... (no, seriously, that's not narcissism, I was regularly unleashing gigantic charges because of the alchemy bid I set up. Fortunately, tazz has got the session cornered, so it isn't going to fully turn into a 'piono session' as you so tactfully coined)
V___V sorry.
I haven't heard many complaints about being unable to charge during respawning, both in DTG2, 0 and Pain and Suffering. On the other hand, it is easy to die in P&S. I may leave it up to a vote, but personally, it doesn't feel that cheap in any DTG title. Then again, I've never died.
Two, Acolyte and P&S. Terraria had no good reason not to be canon and earned its way into canon so it would be hard to make it uncanon.
Meh, I've heard small rumbles here and there, but usually I'm the only one socially oblivious/rude enough to complain about stuff like that.
Uh, hate to tell ya this, Alphazoid, but you're kinda asking someone who was around in DTG2 times - which is WAY before YOU, I might add - to deal with what, from what I at least am seeing, would essentially be a major change to canon that has been established YEARS ago. Which is not the smart kinda thing to do if you wanna have a good time here.
I'm really curious, now that there are 2 Godmodders. Do you get a Spoil of War for defeating Richard or Uzi? Assuming you don't end up ending the story suddenly. What about the other godmodders that will show up? If a player killsteals Richard's attempted kill, could they get a Spoil of War? Like the godmodder glove or something?
Tazz, you said earlier that it is possible to become an Alpha Godmodder with a lot of charge and determination or the right level 25 Alchemy. Now I'm wondering how charges would work after becoming one, since godmodders don't appear to use it at all.
Um, Piono, didn't Richard do the "Hand up out of the debris" thing at the end of DTG2? Wouldn't he therefore be alive? And does that count as spoilers?
Well, yes, but until further notice the 'or is it' clause hasn't gone into effect. He may be dead, he may not be. It hasn't been decided yet.
Sorry, I was unaware of his overall personality. My bad.
Meh, it's okay. Everyone messes up once in a while, even me, and I probably know more about DTG lore than anyone else, having read all of all but two of the canon threads.
I'm really curious, now that there are 2 Godmodders. Do you get a Spoil of War for defeating Richard or Uzi? Assuming you don't end up ending the story suddenly. What about the other godmodders that will show up? If a player killsteals Richard's attempted kill, could they get a Spoil of War? Like the godmodder glove or something?
Tazz, you said earlier that it is possible to become an Alpha Godmodder with a lot of charge and determination or the right level 25 Alchemy. Now I'm wondering how charges would work after becoming one, since godmodders don't appear to use it at all.
insert's mostly summed it up. Since THE Godmodder is on the field, being a lower level godmodder doesn't give you much lee-way, especially since our position as honorary (or actual, although I don't think any of the 12 actual descendants are in DTG0) actually grants us more power, and in order to utilize all of the strengths of a godmodder, you'd have to drop some of the strengths of being a descendant.
,,,well crap, that throws a LOT of different things out of whack in what I had planned.
And it honestly annoys me because literally the only thing that got accomplished was you taking advantage of me giving you my characters to GM and unceremoniously killing Tricky and Sauron.
Neither got killed in ways that actually keep them dead, but still, I set up those sacrifices with the intent of having other people's plots get forwarded, if the only thing that happens is sabotaging my stuff, that seriously ticks me off.
I mean, the plot points did all happen, and I thank you for trying to stick to my plan, even when everything went down the crapper, but they didn't actually accomplish anything, y'know?
Sorry, I know it's not your fault, but if I didn't feel too crappy to have actual strong emotions right now, the MSPA session would still be a sore enough point to seriously **** me off just from the unfairness of it all. Or maybe it wouldn't. I'm still thoroughly disappointed by the lack of accomplishment that it represents.
The issue is, the Homestuck plotline was, ironically, the one thing not properly wrapped up. The homestuck characters are still just floating around randomly.
Nothing actually got resolved during the MSPA session, and honestly, yes, if the MSPA forums do re-open their forum games section (it's not existing is the reason why I ran it on the chocolate pi forums) I might try and run it there properly if I can get permission from twin and tazz and I have enough time in my personal life.
The issue is, the Homestuck plotline was, ironically, the one thing not properly wrapped up. The homestuck characters are still just floating around randomly.
Nothing actually got resolved during the MSPA session, and honestly, yes, if the MSPA forums do re-open their forum games section (it's not existing is the reason why I ran it on the chocolate pi forums) I might try and run it there properly if I can get permission from twin and tazz and I have enough time in my personal life.
So while I think that the idea is awesome and should be implemented, the current session has left us with nothing. It to simply put it has no reason to be canon. Nothing of importance transpired and while I like it due to allowing us to enjoy the fun of Homestuck without causing cries of another Homestuck Invasion. It isn't necessary to be canon but I'm fine with it being canon.
So.... Yeah.
Also current Odds for the Acolyte vs. Alicia 0:2.
If somebody doesn't bet on the Acolyte, I'm to have to "convince" Alicia to throw the fight or I'm just going to give the Acolyte the Duedly Magnum. I refuse to have a meaningless match without some sort of profit/amusement. If I wanted a one-sided match I'd leave Richard to die.
Hmm. In a direct battle, it's actually kind of difficult to say which of them would win. Thankfully, this is made a little simpler by not factoring in the strength of PA/PG players, but even so, it's still quite the conundrum. Acolyte has more health, but Alicia is harder to damage, for example.
Hey, if you rig the fight, then I might just be forced to counter-rig it.
And trust me, I've got more firepower than you.
Also, Alphazoid, I've gotten to where you introduced your backstory, and yeah, something needs to be worked over with that, because it IS canon that your character was created by Alpha now. (Not Richard, Alpha) and THAT is actually possible, although it wouldn't be for hunting down rivals, but most likely for dealing with nuisances...
Like the other players.
I can see your plotline actually working, again, I'm not a GM, so my word isn't law, but I think your idea could work.
Hey, if you rig the fight, then I might just be forced to counter-rig it.
And trust me, I've got more firepower than you.
Well, a direct threat to an Outer God. Ballsy, I'll leave your precious Alicia alone, my respect has gone up for you Piono. Threaten me again and I shall be more in the mood take you up on that threat.
@piono: I can easily fix up the parts that aren't correct by having another character of mine call him out, revealing him to have lied about said parts.
Too late, we already made Terraria canon. Besides, our alternative was another Piono session (And I can't say this with any tact so basically they're pretty self-centered) wherein a relatively large portion of the endgame kind of screwed up power levels. Piono climbed two rungs of the Echeladder and Scratch literally alchemized the Green Sun. ...Granted, we're probably going to get worse, but you're not stopping this. Plus the Godmodder is Alpha (...now), so that argument is invalid. Add in the fact that some people are already treating it as canon and... well, you're not stopping this anytime soon. Regardless, the main thing I'd argue about Tazz's theft is the fact that it will literally never matter... probably.
Cat drawn by me. Accepting requests, depending on a lot of things. DTG Atsume: http://www.imgur.com/a/tij95
1'-[7']-{'3}-'3-'3 '6-11'-7'-6'-7' '1-{'3}-8'-12'-'3-2'
'10-'5-'8-'11 1'-[7']-8'-7'-'3 '2-11'-2'-'9-7'
'10-'5-'3-'3 1'-[7']-'3 '10-8'-{'3}-['10]-4'-7'
'10-{'3}-'3-'3-'6-8'-4' {'3}-11'-2'-'9-7'
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I was angry enough to care. Let's just leave it at that, since making me genuinely care about something is a very difficult task.
GODDAMN IT
STUPID GENDERFLIP VIRUS
Alicia vs. The Acolyte place your bets!
*stands in a stall with odds marked on a chalkboard behind*
He ate the bread that he made from stone
He fell from the Temple, never broke a bone
Bowed down to the Emperor and watched as former King was overthrown
He sits alone on his throne.
Not an ending to Richard's story he's dead right now, or sort of.
I mean, it COULD be an end, but I have a PLN (P L N!) for using him for a potential future session. But it's far enough in the future that I'm going to wait to ask until nailing something like that down won't pre-empt anyone else from doing something with it.
@insert: tvtropes wasn't, it started out that way but then I fixed it, mspa was meant to be player-centric, and my goal was to shift my characters out of the limelight once the playerbase got settled.
Obviously, that never happened with the MSPA session, so I'm glad we never actually settled the argument on whether or not it was canon because seriously, as good as fseftr is, he didn't have enough to work with to fix the piono-centric nature of the plot.
As for the canonicity thing... yeah, if I'd known it would become canon, I would've been less absurd with the stuff I did early on. Considering the power creep in that session is entirely my fault... (no, seriously, that's not narcissism, I was regularly unleashing gigantic charges because of the alchemy bid I set up. Fortunately, tazz has got the session cornered, so it isn't going to fully turn into a 'piono session' as you so tactfully coined)
V___V sorry.
Okay then.
Meh, I've heard small rumbles here and there, but usually I'm the only one socially oblivious/rude enough to complain about stuff like that.
Alicia, definitely. The Acolyte isn't a proper godmodder, and Alicia's already pulled some pretty absurd feats of strength.
DTG Co Labs
Nope, sorry guys, no Destroy the Godmodder relevant stuff here...
At least, not yet.
@piono: I've already established that part of his backstory, so deal with it.
@final: I'm not gonna lie, I did sorta base their personalities on them.
The coin of duality spins for eternity...
For most, a beginning. For us, a continuation.
Uh, hate to tell ya this, Alphazoid, but you're kinda asking someone who was around in DTG2 times - which is WAY before YOU, I might add - to deal with what, from what I at least am seeing, would essentially be a major change to canon that has been established YEARS ago. Which is not the smart kinda thing to do if you wanna have a good time here.
GODDAMN IT
STUPID GENDERFLIP VIRUS
Sorry, I was unaware of his overall personality. My bad.
The coin of duality spins for eternity...
For most, a beginning. For us, a continuation.
I'm really curious, now that there are 2 Godmodders. Do you get a Spoil of War for defeating Richard or Uzi? Assuming you don't end up ending the story suddenly. What about the other godmodders that will show up? If a player killsteals Richard's attempted kill, could they get a Spoil of War? Like the godmodder glove or something?
Tazz, you said earlier that it is possible to become an Alpha Godmodder with a lot of charge and determination or the right level 25 Alchemy. Now I'm wondering how charges would work after becoming one, since godmodders don't appear to use it at all.
Godmodders... Hm. I'm going to presume a few things.
Cat drawn by me. Accepting requests, depending on a lot of things. DTG Atsume: http://www.imgur.com/a/tij95
1'-[7']-{'3}-'3-'3 '6-11'-7'-6'-7' '1-{'3}-8'-12'-'3-2'
'10-'5-'8-'11 1'-[7']-8'-7'-'3 '2-11'-2'-'9-7'
'10-'5-'3-'3 1'-[7']-'3 '10-8'-{'3}-['10]-4'-7'
'10-{'3}-'3-'3-'6-8'-4' {'3}-11'-2'-'9-7'
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Man I've realized that the TV Tropes page for DTG lacks any 0rigins content, it is just starting up but still...
He ate the bread that he made from stone
He fell from the Temple, never broke a bone
Bowed down to the Emperor and watched as former King was overthrown
He sits alone on his throne.
Well, yes, but until further notice the 'or is it' clause hasn't gone into effect. He may be dead, he may not be. It hasn't been decided yet.
Meh, it's okay. Everyone messes up once in a while, even me, and I probably know more about DTG lore than anyone else, having read all of all but two of the canon threads.
insert's mostly summed it up. Since THE Godmodder is on the field, being a lower level godmodder doesn't give you much lee-way, especially since our position as honorary (or actual, although I don't think any of the 12 actual descendants are in DTG0) actually grants us more power, and in order to utilize all of the strengths of a godmodder, you'd have to drop some of the strengths of being a descendant.
Yup, the tvtropes page is... lacking to say the least. People just aren't that interested in it.
DTG Co Labs
Nope, sorry guys, no Destroy the Godmodder relevant stuff here...
At least, not yet.
Y'all may want to check out this page on what is and isn't canon, made by Twin himself: http://destroy-the-godmodder.wikia.com/wiki/Canon
Oh, so the MSPA session DID get rendered canon?
,,,well crap, that throws a LOT of different things out of whack in what I had planned.
And it honestly annoys me because literally the only thing that got accomplished was you taking advantage of me giving you my characters to GM and unceremoniously killing Tricky and Sauron.
Neither got killed in ways that actually keep them dead, but still, I set up those sacrifices with the intent of having other people's plots get forwarded, if the only thing that happens is sabotaging my stuff, that seriously ticks me off.
I mean, the plot points did all happen, and I thank you for trying to stick to my plan, even when everything went down the crapper, but they didn't actually accomplish anything, y'know?
Sorry, I know it's not your fault, but if I didn't feel too crappy to have actual strong emotions right now, the MSPA session would still be a sore enough point to seriously **** me off just from the unfairness of it all. Or maybe it wouldn't. I'm still thoroughly disappointed by the lack of accomplishment that it represents.
DTG Co Labs
Nope, sorry guys, no Destroy the Godmodder relevant stuff here...
At least, not yet.
Why?
It was interesting but it was so short.
He ate the bread that he made from stone
He fell from the Temple, never broke a bone
Bowed down to the Emperor and watched as former King was overthrown
He sits alone on his throne.
The issue is, the Homestuck plotline was, ironically, the one thing not properly wrapped up. The homestuck characters are still just floating around randomly.
Nothing actually got resolved during the MSPA session, and honestly, yes, if the MSPA forums do re-open their forum games section (it's not existing is the reason why I ran it on the chocolate pi forums) I might try and run it there properly if I can get permission from twin and tazz and I have enough time in my personal life.
DTG Co Labs
Nope, sorry guys, no Destroy the Godmodder relevant stuff here...
At least, not yet.
That would have been reasonable and a logical idea except for \/
So while I think that the idea is awesome and should be implemented, the current session has left us with nothing. It to simply put it has no reason to be canon. Nothing of importance transpired and while I like it due to allowing us to enjoy the fun of Homestuck without causing cries of another Homestuck Invasion. It isn't necessary to be canon but I'm fine with it being canon.
So.... Yeah.
Also current Odds for the Acolyte vs. Alicia 0:2.
If somebody doesn't bet on the Acolyte, I'm to have to "convince" Alicia to throw the fight or I'm just going to give the Acolyte the Duedly Magnum. I refuse to have a meaningless match without some sort of profit/amusement. If I wanted a one-sided match I'd leave Richard to die.
This is a for fun, pretend match up.
Who said that is the case?
He ate the bread that he made from stone
He fell from the Temple, never broke a bone
Bowed down to the Emperor and watched as former King was overthrown
He sits alone on his throne.
Hmm. In a direct battle, it's actually kind of difficult to say which of them would win. Thankfully, this is made a little simpler by not factoring in the strength of PA/PG players, but even so, it's still quite the conundrum. Acolyte has more health, but Alicia is harder to damage, for example.
GODDAMN IT
STUPID GENDERFLIP VIRUS
Hey, if you rig the fight, then I might just be forced to counter-rig it.
And trust me, I've got more firepower than you.
Also, Alphazoid, I've gotten to where you introduced your backstory, and yeah, something needs to be worked over with that, because it IS canon that your character was created by Alpha now. (Not Richard, Alpha) and THAT is actually possible, although it wouldn't be for hunting down rivals, but most likely for dealing with nuisances...
Like the other players.
I can see your plotline actually working, again, I'm not a GM, so my word isn't law, but I think your idea could work.
DTG Co Labs
Nope, sorry guys, no Destroy the Godmodder relevant stuff here...
At least, not yet.
Well, a direct threat to an Outer God. Ballsy, I'll leave your precious Alicia alone, my respect has gone up for you Piono. Threaten me again and I shall be more in the mood take you up on that threat.
Money isn't important, profit is more than just wealth. Now think again, why would I want you talking?
Um... This isn't an RP thread.
Do me a favor and shut up.
He ate the bread that he made from stone
He fell from the Temple, never broke a bone
Bowed down to the Emperor and watched as former King was overthrown
He sits alone on his throne.
@piono: I can easily fix up the parts that aren't correct by having another character of mine call him out, revealing him to have lied about said parts.
The coin of duality spins for eternity...
For most, a beginning. For us, a continuation.