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Still not sure how Alchemies work exactly. Let's say I want to build the strongest possible alchemy, how would that work? What levels need to be combined to reach that? Although creativity is part of it too probably, just in damage numbers that you get from them automatically, how would it work?
@siegelordhector Rugname was destroyed in one hit because Tazz needed to repair to the lack of balance that my entity had, so as long as you implement balance in your entities/yourself you should be good.
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I'm AZ. This is probably stupid, but really the only reason I am AZ is because I don't want a paradox to kill Wilson before he's ever alive. Yay for protagonist centered morality.
More logically, the actual best solution would be to fight UserZero, avoid Richard ranking up as much as possible, then fight Richard later. ... AKA: DTG1.
Does anyone else think that Richard really doesn't do much too help the AZ cause? Why exactly would we lose if he dies?
@Hezetor:I guess I might not have thought enough about rugname's balance. Well, it's ok as an IC excuse at least to switch to a character with a personality and backstory when I build it up more, since the last character doesn't know about the balancing process OOC.
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More logically, the actual best solution would be to fight UserZero, avoid Richard ranking up as much as possible, then fight Richard later. ... AKA: DTG1.
Does anyone else think that Richard really doesn't do much too help the AZ cause? Why exactly would we lose if he dies?"
Yeah, that does seem to make a lot of sense. Since it would be a lot more efficient to take them out one at a time(I doubt anyone IC wants to see, for example, both of them go into their final form at the same time and work together). Plus, fighting UserZero first leads everyone towards Yggdrasil, and even a faction like GS could definitely take advantage of the power of the First Block, if it is not scratched again.
I would guess the way Richard helps is having a counterbalance godmodder, someone to godmod and safeguard against the OP attacks used by UserZero. But he hasn't really been doing much. Sans might actually end up doing more once he shows up, since he has been said to have a higher rank than Richard on the godmodder scale.
How many posts charge was Sans again? I remember seeing a fifty post charge for him, but I don't know if that was a single charge or multiple 50s combined like Proof, Crusher, Nulitor and I are doing with the Hyperstorm. I figure he's probably pretty charged for all the hype he's been getting by Tazz.
I'm AZ. This is probably stupid, but really the only reason I am AZ is because I don't want a paradox to kill Wilson before he's ever alive. Yay for protagonist centered morality.
More logically, the actual best solution would be to fight UserZero, avoid Richard ranking up as much as possible, then fight Richard later. ... AKA: DTG1.
Does anyone else think that Richard really doesn't do much too help the AZ cause? Why exactly would we lose if he dies?
I'll answer this one at least: Richard's presence alone (specifically the godmodding aura he's emitting) is nullifying an absurd amount of on-server defenses, including a Killaura so stupidly intense that it would cut straight through trademarked Descendant invulnerability to endlessly kill you instantly over and over again, a time she will GLADLY take to find your real bodies and off you with the very same Killaura by teleporting you here. Subverting it is possible, but tricky. And I mean 'the whole GS faction (and it would b ethem) would have to work together to pull off something crazy enough to make it possible,' at which point Richard will be 100% killable without consequence apart from potential DPS.
I'll answer this one at least: Richard's presence alone (specifically the godmodding aura he's emitting) is nullifying an absurd amount of on-server defenses, including a Killaura so stupidly intense that it would cut straight through trademarked Descendant invulnerability to endlessly kill you instantly over and over again, a time she will GLADLY take to find your real bodies and off you with the very same Killaura by teleporting you here. Subverting it is possible, but tricky. And I mean 'the whole GS faction (and it would b ethem) would have to work together to pull off something crazy enough to make it possible,' at which point Richard will be 100% killable without consequence apart from potential DPS.
Of course, such a thing is never easy.
Then again, when has it ever been easy?
Um... ... Didn't we go through DTG2 and DTG1 without a "friendly" godmodder to back us up? DTG2 was on Richard's server, so if he had the ability to insta-kill everyone all the time, that seems like it would have worked quite well to make people rage quit. Psi-Scratch only did the murder everyone thing once, so why can UserZero do that over and over again? Richard also couldn't do that either, even with the Red Dragon's power. Also, isn't Richard near the bottom of the ladder right now? So theoretically, couldn't Sans or any other godmodder do the exact same thing?
...
Somehow, I get the feeling that this game was started by one singular person who never really thought that it would require time travel, godmodding scales, multiple multi-verses, and every other bit of lore we've made up.
Technically, I have some sort of relationship to the endermen controlling Limbo (aka the afterlife), so that would probably help. Backup plans:
1) Find something like the Perfect Sphere and create an Anti-Godmodding field, which nullifies anything a godmodder can do to someone inside its radius of effect. Weakness: It would still limit us to the area of effect.
2) Use Reverse Wood cheese to reverse the killaura into a life aura, which would probably make everyone invincible until UserZero turns it off. Weakness: UserZero probably set up the Killaura to kill Reverse Wood as well to stop this.
3) Kill both Richard and UserZero with the same attack. Weakness: Would require dropping both to 1 HP at the same time, dealing with both Trials (aided by the fact that the Trials would probably engage in combat), and then managing to frag both.
4) Just kill UserZero first, and make sure Richard cannot steal the rank. Weakness: UserZero has triple Richard's health.
5) Steal enough godmodding energy to resist the Killaura. Weakness: Requires dumping even more godmodders onto the server somehow, then killing them to steal power. Likely to be interdicted before it can be pulled off.
If UserZero can pull killaura like that, how the gorilla did we even last a second against Richard (who we had no godmodders to aid the fight against until the final battle)?
The second time he prepared it in a few days. UserZero explicitly had a LOT more time to prepare some of the most absurd defenses possible (even by Godmodder standards). It's just time that was the issue-and Richard wanted to make people Ragequit, not kill them, and that included you. UserZero, by contrast, is so deliberately out for blood.
This game is stupidly complicated, I agree.
As for Crusher: Mate, if you've thought of it, so has she. Basically, all those have an additional weakness that nigh instantly sinks the plan: She already thought of that. As Godmodding's premise revolves around you thinking about it, that she's thought of it means it can't possibly work.
You REALLY have your work cut out for you as far as that goes. Good luck doing somethign that would effectively amount to an equivalent of a 50-damage attack against her applied completely differently, and on top of that in a manner that will also be indestructible so she can't destroy it! You're goign to need a lot more resources than what is immediately available to you.
AS for you, Mystic: 2nd Gatekeeper is here, we're on Haitus right now, it'll end in roughly 4-5 days depending on where you live.
Also: Is there a limit on how powerful one single attack on the godmodder can be (i.e. where the OP scale kicks in and starts weakening your attack because you cant charge an attack on a godmodder), and is it possible to score automatic unavoidable damage on a godmodder by charging an insane amount (like 200 total charge power)?
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Also Crusher, as Tazz said, I can canonically confirm that an instant kill-aura wouldn't really be Richard's style-he wanted people to leave out of frustration, not be forced to by instant-kill. Not to mention, he technically didn't own the server you played on, and didn't really care much to mess with it.
There's one huge flaw with a instant-kill aura, at least as far as I can see. What happens if the player, at some point, just doesn't bother clicking the respawn button and wanders off to go do something else?
There's one huge flaw with a instant-kill aura, at least as far as I can see. What happens if the player, at some point, just doesn't bother clicking the respawn button and wanders off to go do something else?
UserZero's aiming to kill you off for real; barring just not dying through her special gimmicks, she can (eventually) hunt you down and kill you off for real through some tracking tech she made. Hence why you can't close out of Minecraft, leave the server or turn off the computer, but can minimize MC and websurf without trouble; as long as you're on the server, she can track you, and that's all she needs.
Assuming she wasn't out to just kill you, this would also be an excellent ragequit tool, as per the standards of godmodders. The intensity is stupidly high to the point where it legit matters to almost anything, but that required a LOT of time to set up. She went the nine miles to make this place a deathtrap to the highest order in general, and some of what she's done is outright impractical for the purposes given. She's really intent on having your heads.
UserZero's aiming to kill you off for real; barring just not dying through her special gimmicks, she can (eventually) hunt you down and kill you off for real through some tracking tech she made. Hence why you can't close out of Minecraft, leave the server or turn off the computer, but can minimize MC and websurf without trouble; as long as you're on the server, she can track you, and that's all she needs.
Assuming she wasn't out to just kill you, this would also be an excellent ragequit tool, as per the standards of godmodders. The intensity is stupidly high to the point where it legit matters to almost anything, but that required a LOT of time to set up. She went the nine miles to make this place a deathtrap to the highest order in general, and some of what she's done is outright impractical for the purposes given. She's really intent on having your heads.
Too bad she can't get at me. Cause I live on a different planet! Plus, like 50% of my weaponry from the Terraria Session is real.
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I will say this gentlemen: if she want to kill us IRL (the game real life at least) the only thing that will keep us alive is plot armor, she is the, currently, most powerful godmodder so all the things that seems nonsensical become pretty solid facts as soon as she decides that she can do that.
I don't expect consistency in her powers or anything else, as long as she has that much power she could be able to kill us with a spoon easily.
I sort of agree here, if you would say 'plot armor' is that the players are shielded from dying in Game IRL by the rules of the game, which say loss is only possible if every character is dead at the same time against the godmodder. Or at least that is what I remember the rules being for the loss condition.
@FinalBattle:The one way that strategy of just countergodmodding yourself could be defeated would be if Tazz just ignored all of your posts after stating you were dead IRL in his post, never including them in his summary posts that move on the story. Then you could still post but it wouldn't matter, since it wouldn't have any effects on what is stated to have happened in the story:you 'dying IRL' in the story.
I feel a little bit bad for PZ when Sans arrives. It's been said he has the capital Gamma glove, showing he is that rank of a godmodder, one above Richard. Meaning he can probably last even longer than Richard could under consistent attack, since his godmodding is stronger. While his defense would probably be very evasive instead of HP based, taking advantage of his teleportation, it could still potentially work just as well, or at least that is what it seems like with his higher rank.
Sans is a PZ then? I got confused by the most recent EotB where it said '[AZ?] sans: ???. arrival: iiiiiiiiii' [/b]but a PZ would make more sense. Sans' 1 HP will probably be what prevents this Sans vs Richard and everyone else who wants Sans dead(GS,AZ,) from dragging out forever like a normal fight against a godmodder. Even with his teleport hax and likely hyperquick reactions to abuse teleports, it would only take one hit to kill him.
Ratings armor could be there for permakills aka indirect thread bans, since it would look pretty bad for anyone to get permakilled. While the rules don't seem to actually say outright that permakills of players are impossible, the respawn system implies it, since you get infinite respawns unless everyone is dead at once. Which would make 'killing your character's player irl' as a godmodder action seem like a stupid way around the system, unless a spammer showed up or something.
This is the part of your last comment that seemed weird.
"However, if there is an all-powerful bloodthirsty maniac out for Star's life outside of the constraints of the OP scale, or even inside the restraints of the OP scale, he will ignore such comments as, "But that's like a Gary Stu!", and meet the attacker on even ground. Wherever that is, first boss to final boss."
If you're implying that Star would become OP or something if a similarly OP character like UserZero launched an attack to kill her(star's at 2HP for example while UserZero just unleashed a giant attack hitting her and three others)while the hp system is active, that's not really possible. If Tazz says an attack reduces your HP to zero it goes to zero and you must respawn. That's just how the forum game works, and your post saying she survived would get ignored. GMs are supposed to have a level of authority, and while it's not as high here as it is in actual RPs, it is there. I don't think there'd be any ratings downfall there with it not being a permakill and all. But if that's not what you meant I might have misinterpreted it.
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Are doubleposts allowed? As in, posting one after the other without waiting for someone else to post in between? Since I could do that right now, but I'm not sure if it would be allowed.
Still not sure how Alchemies work exactly. Let's say I want to build the strongest possible alchemy, how would that work? What levels need to be combined to reach that? Although creativity is part of it too probably, just in damage numbers that you get from them automatically, how would it work?
@siegelordhector Rugname was destroyed in one hit because Tazz needed to repair to the lack of balance that my entity had, so as long as you implement balance in your entities/yourself you should be good.
I for one would appreciate having another PZ.
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I'm AZ. This is probably stupid, but really the only reason I am AZ is because I don't want a paradox to kill Wilson before he's ever alive. Yay for protagonist centered morality.
More logically, the actual best solution would be to fight UserZero, avoid Richard ranking up as much as possible, then fight Richard later. ... AKA: DTG1.
Does anyone else think that Richard really doesn't do much too help the AZ cause? Why exactly would we lose if he dies?
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@Hezetor:I guess I might not have thought enough about rugname's balance. Well, it's ok as an IC excuse at least to switch to a character with a personality and backstory when I build it up more, since the last character doesn't know about the balancing process OOC.
@Talist:"
More logically, the actual best solution would be to fight UserZero, avoid Richard ranking up as much as possible, then fight Richard later. ... AKA: DTG1.
Does anyone else think that Richard really doesn't do much too help the AZ cause? Why exactly would we lose if he dies?"
Yeah, that does seem to make a lot of sense. Since it would be a lot more efficient to take them out one at a time(I doubt anyone IC wants to see, for example, both of them go into their final form at the same time and work together). Plus, fighting UserZero first leads everyone towards Yggdrasil, and even a faction like GS could definitely take advantage of the power of the First Block, if it is not scratched again.
I would guess the way Richard helps is having a counterbalance godmodder, someone to godmod and safeguard against the OP attacks used by UserZero. But he hasn't really been doing much. Sans might actually end up doing more once he shows up, since he has been said to have a higher rank than Richard on the godmodder scale.
How many posts charge was Sans again? I remember seeing a fifty post charge for him, but I don't know if that was a single charge or multiple 50s combined like Proof, Crusher, Nulitor and I are doing with the Hyperstorm. I figure he's probably pretty charged for all the hype he's been getting by Tazz.
I'll answer this one at least: Richard's presence alone (specifically the godmodding aura he's emitting) is nullifying an absurd amount of on-server defenses, including a Killaura so stupidly intense that it would cut straight through trademarked Descendant invulnerability to endlessly kill you instantly over and over again, a time she will GLADLY take to find your real bodies and off you with the very same Killaura by teleporting you here. Subverting it is possible, but tricky. And I mean 'the whole GS faction (and it would b ethem) would have to work together to pull off something crazy enough to make it possible,' at which point Richard will be 100% killable without consequence apart from potential DPS.
Of course, such a thing is never easy.
Then again, when has it ever been easy?
Um... ... Didn't we go through DTG2 and DTG1 without a "friendly" godmodder to back us up? DTG2 was on Richard's server, so if he had the ability to insta-kill everyone all the time, that seems like it would have worked quite well to make people rage quit. Psi-Scratch only did the murder everyone thing once, so why can UserZero do that over and over again? Richard also couldn't do that either, even with the Red Dragon's power. Also, isn't Richard near the bottom of the ladder right now? So theoretically, couldn't Sans or any other godmodder do the exact same thing?
...
Somehow, I get the feeling that this game was started by one singular person who never really thought that it would require time travel, godmodding scales, multiple multi-verses, and every other bit of lore we've made up.
There's a difference between a hero and a champion. A champion overcomes threats, but a hero overcomes fears.
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Technically, I have some sort of relationship to the endermen controlling Limbo (aka the afterlife), so that would probably help. Backup plans:
1) Find something like the Perfect Sphere and create an Anti-Godmodding field, which nullifies anything a godmodder can do to someone inside its radius of effect. Weakness: It would still limit us to the area of effect.
2) Use Reverse Wood cheese to reverse the killaura into a life aura, which would probably make everyone invincible until UserZero turns it off. Weakness: UserZero probably set up the Killaura to kill Reverse Wood as well to stop this.
3) Kill both Richard and UserZero with the same attack. Weakness: Would require dropping both to 1 HP at the same time, dealing with both Trials (aided by the fact that the Trials would probably engage in combat), and then managing to frag both.
4) Just kill UserZero first, and make sure Richard cannot steal the rank. Weakness: UserZero has triple Richard's health.
5) Steal enough godmodding energy to resist the Killaura. Weakness: Requires dumping even more godmodders onto the server somehow, then killing them to steal power. Likely to be interdicted before it can be pulled off.
If UserZero can pull killaura like that, how the gorilla did we even last a second against Richard (who we had no godmodders to aid the fight against until the final battle)?
Gah, between my new comp and the post-holiday cleanup, I forgot the game was back.
What did I miss? (And has an EOTB happened yet?)
(Also, I won't be able to pesterchum for a while, there's that too.)
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The second time he prepared it in a few days. UserZero explicitly had a LOT more time to prepare some of the most absurd defenses possible (even by Godmodder standards). It's just time that was the issue-and Richard wanted to make people Ragequit, not kill them, and that included you. UserZero, by contrast, is so deliberately out for blood.
This game is stupidly complicated, I agree.
As for Crusher: Mate, if you've thought of it, so has she. Basically, all those have an additional weakness that nigh instantly sinks the plan: She already thought of that. As Godmodding's premise revolves around you thinking about it, that she's thought of it means it can't possibly work.
You REALLY have your work cut out for you as far as that goes. Good luck doing somethign that would effectively amount to an equivalent of a 50-damage attack against her applied completely differently, and on top of that in a manner that will also be indestructible so she can't destroy it! You're goign to need a lot more resources than what is immediately available to you.
AS for you, Mystic: 2nd Gatekeeper is here, we're on Haitus right now, it'll end in roughly 4-5 days depending on where you live.
Wait, how would it amount to a 50 damage attack?
Also: Is there a limit on how powerful one single attack on the godmodder can be (i.e. where the OP scale kicks in and starts weakening your attack because you cant charge an attack on a godmodder), and is it possible to score automatic unavoidable damage on a godmodder by charging an insane amount (like 200 total charge power)?
Don't worry, the hiatus we've been on for a while is good enough. See you Fseftr, it was nice playing with you!
Also Crusher, as Tazz said, I can canonically confirm that an instant kill-aura wouldn't really be Richard's style-he wanted people to leave out of frustration, not be forced to by instant-kill. Not to mention, he technically didn't own the server you played on, and didn't really care much to mess with it.
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There's one huge flaw with a instant-kill aura, at least as far as I can see. What happens if the player, at some point, just doesn't bother clicking the respawn button and wanders off to go do something else?
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Well the godmodder anyway did put the curse of killing making the player die when his avatar dies.
UserZero's aiming to kill you off for real; barring just not dying through her special gimmicks, she can (eventually) hunt you down and kill you off for real through some tracking tech she made. Hence why you can't close out of Minecraft, leave the server or turn off the computer, but can minimize MC and websurf without trouble; as long as you're on the server, she can track you, and that's all she needs.
Assuming she wasn't out to just kill you, this would also be an excellent ragequit tool, as per the standards of godmodders. The intensity is stupidly high to the point where it legit matters to almost anything, but that required a LOT of time to set up. She went the nine miles to make this place a deathtrap to the highest order in general, and some of what she's done is outright impractical for the purposes given. She's really intent on having your heads.
Too bad she can't get at me.
Cause I live on a different planet!
Plus, like 50% of my weaponry from the Terraria Session is real.
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And by wanders off, I mean is no longer at the computer which is being tracked.
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I will say this gentlemen: if she want to kill us IRL (the game real life at least) the only thing that will keep us alive is plot armor, she is the, currently, most powerful godmodder so all the things that seems nonsensical become pretty solid facts as soon as she decides that she can do that.
I don't expect consistency in her powers or anything else, as long as she has that much power she could be able to kill us with a spoon easily.
Well at least this is how I see it.
@Hez:
I sort of agree here, if you would say 'plot armor' is that the players are shielded from dying in Game IRL by the rules of the game, which say loss is only possible if every character is dead at the same time against the godmodder. Or at least that is what I remember the rules being for the loss condition.
@FinalBattle:The one way that strategy of just countergodmodding yourself could be defeated would be if Tazz just ignored all of your posts after stating you were dead IRL in his post, never including them in his summary posts that move on the story. Then you could still post but it wouldn't matter, since it wouldn't have any effects on what is stated to have happened in the story:you 'dying IRL' in the story.
I feel a little bit bad for PZ when Sans arrives. It's been said he has the capital Gamma glove, showing he is that rank of a godmodder, one above Richard. Meaning he can probably last even longer than Richard could under consistent attack, since his godmodding is stronger. While his defense would probably be very evasive instead of HP based, taking advantage of his teleportation, it could still potentially work just as well, or at least that is what it seems like with his higher rank.
Sans is a PZ then? I got confused by the most recent EotB where it said '[AZ?] sans: ???. arrival: iiiiiiiiii' [/b]but a PZ would make more sense. Sans' 1 HP will probably be what prevents this Sans vs Richard and everyone else who wants Sans dead(GS,AZ,) from dragging out forever like a normal fight against a godmodder. Even with his teleport hax and likely hyperquick reactions to abuse teleports, it would only take one hit to kill him.
Ratings armor could be there for permakills aka indirect thread bans, since it would look pretty bad for anyone to get permakilled. While the rules don't seem to actually say outright that permakills of players are impossible, the respawn system implies it, since you get infinite respawns unless everyone is dead at once. Which would make 'killing your character's player irl' as a godmodder action seem like a stupid way around the system, unless a spammer showed up or something.
This is the part of your last comment that seemed weird.
"However, if there is an all-powerful bloodthirsty maniac out for Star's life outside of the constraints of the OP scale, or even inside the restraints of the OP scale, he will ignore such comments as, "But that's like a Gary Stu!", and meet the attacker on even ground. Wherever that is, first boss to final boss."
If you're implying that Star would become OP or something if a similarly OP character like UserZero launched an attack to kill her(star's at 2HP for example while UserZero just unleashed a giant attack hitting her and three others)while the hp system is active, that's not really possible. If Tazz says an attack reduces your HP to zero it goes to zero and you must respawn. That's just how the forum game works, and your post saying she survived would get ignored. GMs are supposed to have a level of authority, and while it's not as high here as it is in actual RPs, it is there. I don't think there'd be any ratings downfall there with it not being a permakill and all. But if that's not what you meant I might have misinterpreted it.