...Dammit, Talist. You've basically been present with a path that leads left and a path that leads right, and responded by trying to fly away. That's NOT the intent of my question. The Hitler/Stalin thing was a way of simplifying it, not raising a thousand questions.
...******, Talist. You've basically been present with a path that leads left and a path that leads right, and responded by trying to fly away. That's NOT the intent of my question. The Hitler/Stalin thing was a way of simplifying it, not raising a thousand questions.
...Dangit, Engie. You've basically presented me with a path that leads left and a path that leads right, and assumed that those are the only two options. That's NOT how I'm going to answer your question. Why can't I fly away? Or turn around? Or go off the path? Or set up camp? Or start digging a tunnel? Or wait for someone else to walk by and ask them? Or build a space elevator and escape to Mars? Or pull out the stones of one of the paths and make a new one? Or build an anti-matter power plant and found the thriving city of Tal-topia? Why can't I? False Dilemma. You asked me a moral question, and I responded in lines with my morals. IE: The situation is REALLY important. How was that not the intent of your question? I still think that there are certain bedrock moral values, but even those change with society. If you want to know what I think those are, look at Wilson. I made him to be an idealistic view of morality.
...Dangit, Engie. You've basically presented me with a path that leads left and a path that leads right, and assumed that those are the only two options. That's NOT how I'm going to answer your question. Why can't I fly away? Or turn around? Or go off the path? Or set up camp? Or start digging a tunnel? Or wait for someone else to walk by and ask them? Or build a space elevator and escape to Mars? Or pull out the stones of one of the paths and make a new one? Or build an anti-matter power plant and found the thriving city of Tal-topia? Why can't I? False Dilemma. You asked me a moral question, and I responded in lines with my morals. IE: The situation is REALLY important. How was that not the intent of your question? I still think that there are certain bedrock moral values, but even those change with society. If you want to know what I think those are, look at Wilson. I made him to be an idealistic view of morality.
Because I'm wondering what you would do with the base values. No random jetpack, no pickaxe, no path back, no way off the path. Two options. One of them is different from the other only in that it has a slightly changed variable. If you have a mouse, you've got the left mouse button, and the right mouse button, because that mouse is one of them primitive early mouses. You're supposed to click one of the buttons and be done with it, not question why the mouse only has two buttons. Nobody can build an anti-matter power plant with their bare hands!
Because I'm wondering what you would do with the base values. No random jetpack, no pickaxe, no path back, no way off the path. Two options. One of them is different from the other only in that it has a slightly changed variable. If you have a mouse, you've got the left mouse button, and the right mouse button, because that mouse is one of them primitive early mouses. You're supposed to click one of the buttons and be done with it, not question why the mouse only has two buttons. Nobody can build an anti-matter power plant with their bare hands!
Okay, here's the thing engie, talist's argument is more valid than yours is. These ethical dilemnas only ever serve to be interesting thought experiments, and if it's going to make someone angry, there's really no point. Because really, in reality, there's always more than one way out.
The only way to legitimately answer this question is to take into account what the answeree is going to do with it.
And actually, with either question, I'd go with answer B. It's easier to foil terrorists (or take over their group and try and set them on the moral path once more) than a dictatorship. If given a choice between Hitler and Stalin, I'd choose Stalin. In the event that I can change the timeline, the removal of Stalin is more likely to avert conflict (a lot of good things happened because of WW2, as many bad things happened there, but Russia... Soviet Russia was a bad thing across the board) than Hitler, and if I can't change the timeline, working with Hitler either gets me a: tried as a war criminal, b: killed in the siege on Berlin or whereever (or before) or c: stuck in East/West Berlin after the war ends. In the case of Stalin, you say working with, which gives the idea that I'm in a higher position, meaning I can keep myself out of harms way AND protect the people under my watch while I'm there, and might even have a chance to say "SCREW YOU GUYS I'M OUT OF HERE" Which isn't really an option as a Nazi.
Anyways, my answer is to subvert the question by going left as long as it takes to mug the narrator and then going home.
That feeling you get when your epic awesome attack that you hope takes out the gatekeeper comes right after the update and you have to wait another hour or so.
And that feeling that follows when you realize it didn't get the kill despite the work put into it.
"A GASH WITHOUT SUTURES, A BURNING TATTOO, A WIN WITH NO FUTURE, A PAGE FILLED WITH CLUES, A CULT THAT BEWITCHES, A DEATH YOU'LL REGRET, THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT YOU TRY TO FORGET."
Hey, serpent, in TVT2, there's about to be a meeting of the IUPC members (Deimos, Sanford, Hank, Eric, Wilson and Astria). Are you interested in being involved in it?
If on the other hand you achieved that without seeds, congratulations, FBSN. You earned that ghostly guy that flies around and dies literally in a hit unless you have Holy Mantle!
Jeez, so many Issac players around these parts. I'm lucky I saw a few Lets Plays of Rebirth or I'd be dead clueless.
So, does anybody remember when I posted that thing where I did DTG-ified lyrics to The Living Tombstone's Its Been So Long?
Well, I got Die In A Fire stuck in my head, and after about an hour of just twisting around messing with stuff, I had lyrics again.
I really hate you
Stop getting in my way
I just don't get it
why I cannot blow you away
I've broken worlds before
Don't see why one man's so hard
It's always been like this,
he's held me back from the start...
I hope you die in a fire!
I'm gonna rip out your heart
Raise up the flames even higher!
I wanna tear you apart
This farce is making me tired
[long instrumental bit]
Your time is over
I'm finally going to get you
All this destruction
It is time that you paid your dues
For all the lives that you ended
Every dream you destroyed.
For every world that exploded
Just 'cause you got annoyed...
Oh yeah! Oh no!
I hope you die in a fire!
Just like you ripped out my heart
I'll build your funeral pyre!
Rip out the end from the start
Your welcome here has expired
I hope you die in a fire! I hope you die in a fire!
I'm gonna rip out your heart, Just like you ripped out my heart
Raise up the flames even higher! I'll build your funeral pyre!
I wanna tear you apart, Rip out the end from the start
This farce is making me tired! Your welcome here has expired!
Yes, the last bit is Eric and Piono doing a duet about how much they want to kill the other person.
In a related bit of whatever, I had the random idea of Five Nights in Godcraft.
A fake fan game of DTG FNaF where Twin, after losing first guardian status, has to get a job as a night guard to pay the bills...
Only for it to be trap set up by GlaDOs (who is Still Alive after all) with animatronics of everybody (how they got killed and rendered into animatronics, I don't know. This would be strictly non-canon) trying to kill him.
Some of the images that came into my head was a VERY twitchy Tricky animatronic, a Scratch animatronic that teleports around, an Engie and a Blue animatronic that work together, a Piono animatronic that doesn't play well with any of the others (especially the Eric animatronic) but is really freaking annoying if the others don't get in its way, a Manic animatronic that summons mini zombie pigmen toys like Nightmare Freddy, and the one that really stuck in my head was the Godmodder animatronic.
That thing would by FNaGC's equivalent of Nightmare.
Also, also related (to the song, not FNaF) does anyone mind if some actual story gets added in to Godmodder Chronicles. I was already thinking that Erelye would want the earlier parts of his story changed to be more in line with what he has it now (he's already stated that he wishes he hadn't done the original sidequest of his) and some actual characterization is going to be plugged in in Genesis, which is going to take some changes anyways.
Is anyone averse to this? People will get to have a say on the shifts, but it can't be anything that's going to change any major plot points, because that's not a good road to go down.
The issue is how to balance which animatronics get in.
The ones I listed above are ones that need to be in there, but most of the side characters really shouldn't be. I had the idea of Astria/Serpent animatronics (like, one for each) because that could be played in a really sad/dark way, (sort of like how the play up between the engie and the Blue animatronic was meant to be) and doubly so with the Wilson animatronic (not certain how he'd work, he'd either be a support animatronic, or be extra vicious just to hammer home what a terrible thing GlaDOs has done)
And then there's the Piono animatronic who you flip off and think "Good riddance."
As for how your characters act, that is the plan. The only characters that will be changed without their owner's consent are ones whose owner can't be contacted/refuse to help out.
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I have no idea what they mean, but they're probably part of someone's ARG. I'll just post a link to the relevant page, where Piono has recorded most of the numbers.
And then there's Dave. He's locked in a closet because, as it turns out, he's still as useless as before, only bumbling into everything with no sense of direction. Well, when he's not equipped properly, he is, but once GLaDOs gets around to it...
...yeah, he's still useless. But now he can probably find his way around slightly better (read: actually move somewhere where there could be importance once in a while) and kill you. But not without getting your doorway jammed for a few seconds by tripping half the wires in the place.
I can hear it now... "Who's brilliant idea was it to put HIM back in again? He couldn't handle tripping on a sidewalk without dying!"
. And you know what the best part of all this is? You'll DO it. And then you'll lose to me again. And again. And again!!! Because you want a "happy ending." Because you "love your friends." Because you "never give up." Isn't that delicious? Your "determination." The power that let you get this far... It's gonna be your downfall!
"THIS IS EQUAL PARTS FUNNY AND SAD."
"STOP LAUGHING AND KILL THE BUNNY!"
"YOU'RE GETTING QUOTED ON THAT ONE, CALLING IT NOW. WHY ARE YOU LOSING IT OVER ONE ENEMY ANYWAY?"
"I DON'T KNOW! THERE'S A BLANK SCREEN WHENEVER I PERFORM A MEMORY SEARCH! NOTHING SHOWS UP!"
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...Dammit, Talist. You've basically been present with a path that leads left and a path that leads right, and responded by trying to fly away. That's NOT the intent of my question. The Hitler/Stalin thing was a way of simplifying it, not raising a thousand questions.
GODDAMN IT
STUPID GENDERFLIP VIRUS
Is that the new Gravity Falls thing? If so, sure. That suits something I'm planning....
THE PROPHECY SEEMED FAR AWAY
BUT FINALLY WE'VE REACHED THE DAY
GIVE UP THE PAST, EMBRACE THE STRANGE
EVERYTHING YOU CARE ABOUT WILL CHANGE
When both sides are doomed, which do you choose?
DOWN HERE IT'S KILL OR BE KILLED
...Dangit, Engie. You've basically presented me with a path that leads left and a path that leads right, and assumed that those are the only two options. That's NOT how I'm going to answer your question. Why can't I fly away? Or turn around? Or go off the path? Or set up camp? Or start digging a tunnel? Or wait for someone else to walk by and ask them? Or build a space elevator and escape to Mars? Or pull out the stones of one of the paths and make a new one? Or build an anti-matter power plant and found the thriving city of Tal-topia? Why can't I? False Dilemma. You asked me a moral question, and I responded in lines with my morals. IE: The situation is REALLY important. How was that not the intent of your question? I still think that there are certain bedrock moral values, but even those change with society. If you want to know what I think those are, look at Wilson. I made him to be an idealistic view of morality.
There's a difference between a hero and a champion. A champion overcomes threats, but a hero overcomes fears.
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Because I'm wondering what you would do with the base values. No random jetpack, no pickaxe, no path back, no way off the path. Two options. One of them is different from the other only in that it has a slightly changed variable. If you have a mouse, you've got the left mouse button, and the right mouse button, because that mouse is one of them primitive early mouses. You're supposed to click one of the buttons and be done with it, not question why the mouse only has two buttons. Nobody can build an anti-matter power plant with their bare hands!
GODDAMN IT
STUPID GENDERFLIP VIRUS
Okay, here's the thing engie, talist's argument is more valid than yours is. These ethical dilemnas only ever serve to be interesting thought experiments, and if it's going to make someone angry, there's really no point. Because really, in reality, there's always more than one way out.
The only way to legitimately answer this question is to take into account what the answeree is going to do with it.
And actually, with either question, I'd go with answer B. It's easier to foil terrorists (or take over their group and try and set them on the moral path once more) than a dictatorship. If given a choice between Hitler and Stalin, I'd choose Stalin. In the event that I can change the timeline, the removal of Stalin is more likely to avert conflict (a lot of good things happened because of WW2, as many bad things happened there, but Russia... Soviet Russia was a bad thing across the board) than Hitler, and if I can't change the timeline, working with Hitler either gets me a: tried as a war criminal, b: killed in the siege on Berlin or whereever (or before) or c: stuck in East/West Berlin after the war ends. In the case of Stalin, you say working with, which gives the idea that I'm in a higher position, meaning I can keep myself out of harms way AND protect the people under my watch while I'm there, and might even have a chance to say "SCREW YOU GUYS I'M OUT OF HERE" Which isn't really an option as a Nazi.
Anyways, my answer is to subvert the question by going left as long as it takes to mug the narrator and then going home.
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Nope, sorry guys, no Destroy the Godmodder relevant stuff here...
At least, not yet.
And that feeling that follows when you realize it didn't get the kill despite the work put into it.
Been there, done that. I feel your pain.
So I decoded Generic's signature.
"A GASH WITHOUT SUTURES, A BURNING TATTOO, A WIN WITH NO FUTURE, A PAGE FILLED WITH CLUES, A CULT THAT BEWITCHES, A DEATH YOU'LL REGRET, THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT YOU TRY TO FORGET."
Oh boy.
It's actually fake poetic. I just cobbled it together.
It's not even about me hahahahahaha
Cat drawn by me. Accepting requests, depending on a lot of things. DTG Atsume: http://www.imgur.com/a/tij95
1'-[7']-{'3}-'3-'3 '6-11'-7'-6'-7' '1-{'3}-8'-12'-'3-2'
'10-'5-'8-'11 1'-[7']-8'-7'-'3 '2-11'-2'-'9-7'
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'10-{'3}-'3-'3-'6-8'-4' {'3}-11'-2'-'9-7'
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Hey, serpent, in TVT2, there's about to be a meeting of the IUPC members (Deimos, Sanford, Hank, Eric, Wilson and Astria). Are you interested in being involved in it?
DTG Co Labs
Nope, sorry guys, no Destroy the Godmodder relevant stuff here...
At least, not yet.
Regardless of whether or not it is "fake poetic" or not, it still appears to be rather nice, if only for aesthetic, Generic.
Anyhow, Fseftr, as of this very moment, is the only one to have solved a single portion of my excerpts from I Húna Parma. Fascinating.
It's not even that hard. You just need 3 seeds and a good Azazel run. I.E ALL OF THEM.
Cat drawn by me. Accepting requests, depending on a lot of things. DTG Atsume: http://www.imgur.com/a/tij95
1'-[7']-{'3}-'3-'3 '6-11'-7'-6'-7' '1-{'3}-8'-12'-'3-2'
'10-'5-'8-'11 1'-[7']-8'-7'-'3 '2-11'-2'-'9-7'
'10-'5-'3-'3 1'-[7']-'3 '10-8'-{'3}-['10]-4'-7'
'10-{'3}-'3-'3-'6-8'-4' {'3}-11'-2'-'9-7'
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If on the other hand you achieved that without seeds, congratulations, FBSN. You earned that ghostly guy that flies around and dies literally in a hit unless you have Holy Mantle!
Jeez, so many Issac players around these parts. I'm lucky I saw a few Lets Plays of Rebirth or I'd be dead clueless.
Speaking of the Lost...
...have fun with him.
The dream that you've never dreamed is suddenly about to FLOWER.
Chair-City? (Ind) (Tra)
So, does anybody remember when I posted that thing where I did DTG-ified lyrics to The Living Tombstone's Its Been So Long?
Well, I got Die In A Fire stuck in my head, and after about an hour of just twisting around messing with stuff, I had lyrics again.
I really hate you
Stop getting in my way
I just don't get it
why I cannot blow you away
I've broken worlds before
Don't see why one man's so hard
It's always been like this,
he's held me back from the start...
I hope you die in a fire!
I'm gonna rip out your heart
Raise up the flames even higher!
I wanna tear you apart
This farce is making me tired
[long instrumental bit]
Your time is over
I'm finally going to get you
All this destruction
It is time that you paid your dues
For all the lives that you ended
Every dream you destroyed.
For every world that exploded
Just 'cause you got annoyed...
Oh yeah! Oh no!
I hope you die in a fire!
Just like you ripped out my heart
I'll build your funeral pyre!
Rip out the end from the start
Your welcome here has expired
I hope you die in a fire! I hope you die in a fire!
I'm gonna rip out your heart, Just like you ripped out my heart
Raise up the flames even higher! I'll build your funeral pyre!
I wanna tear you apart, Rip out the end from the start
This farce is making me tired! Your welcome here has expired!
Yes, the last bit is Eric and Piono doing a duet about how much they want to kill the other person.
In a related bit of whatever, I had the random idea of Five Nights in Godcraft.
A fake fan game of DTG FNaF where Twin, after losing first guardian status, has to get a job as a night guard to pay the bills...
Only for it to be trap set up by GlaDOs (who is Still Alive after all) with animatronics of everybody (how they got killed and rendered into animatronics, I don't know. This would be strictly non-canon) trying to kill him.
Some of the images that came into my head was a VERY twitchy Tricky animatronic, a Scratch animatronic that teleports around, an Engie and a Blue animatronic that work together, a Piono animatronic that doesn't play well with any of the others (especially the Eric animatronic) but is really freaking annoying if the others don't get in its way, a Manic animatronic that summons mini zombie pigmen toys like Nightmare Freddy, and the one that really stuck in my head was the Godmodder animatronic.
That thing would by FNaGC's equivalent of Nightmare.
Also, also related (to the song, not FNaF) does anyone mind if some actual story gets added in to Godmodder Chronicles. I was already thinking that Erelye would want the earlier parts of his story changed to be more in line with what he has it now (he's already stated that he wishes he hadn't done the original sidequest of his) and some actual characterization is going to be plugged in in Genesis, which is going to take some changes anyways.
Is anyone averse to this? People will get to have a say on the shifts, but it can't be anything that's going to change any major plot points, because that's not a good road to go down.
DTG Co Labs
Nope, sorry guys, no Destroy the Godmodder relevant stuff here...
At least, not yet.
The funny thing is that one of my characters actually is an animatronic
GODDAMN IT
STUPID GENDERFLIP VIRUS
Maniac's animatronic idea intrigues me. Also, FNaGC is something I wanted for a while, I just didn't know how to plan it.
You may change up my story, Mr. Player, but, as you'd imagine, I'd get the final word on how Maniac/Midna/L()rd/OBLIVION acts.
THE PROPHECY SEEMED FAR AWAY
BUT FINALLY WE'VE REACHED THE DAY
GIVE UP THE PAST, EMBRACE THE STRANGE
EVERYTHING YOU CARE ABOUT WILL CHANGE
When both sides are doomed, which do you choose?
DOWN HERE IT'S KILL OR BE KILLED
The issue is how to balance which animatronics get in.
The ones I listed above are ones that need to be in there, but most of the side characters really shouldn't be. I had the idea of Astria/Serpent animatronics (like, one for each) because that could be played in a really sad/dark way, (sort of like how the play up between the engie and the Blue animatronic was meant to be) and doubly so with the Wilson animatronic (not certain how he'd work, he'd either be a support animatronic, or be extra vicious just to hammer home what a terrible thing GlaDOs has done)
And then there's the Piono animatronic who you flip off and think "Good riddance."
As for how your characters act, that is the plan. The only characters that will be changed without their owner's consent are ones whose owner can't be contacted/refuse to help out.
DTG Co Labs
Nope, sorry guys, no Destroy the Godmodder relevant stuff here...
At least, not yet.
NOTICE: THERE ARE NOW STRANGE NUMBERS ON DTG CHAOS.
I have no idea what they mean, but they're probably part of someone's ARG. I'll just post a link to the relevant page, where Piono has recorded most of the numbers.
http://s15.zetaboards.com/DTG_Forums/topic/8059969/18/
The dream that you've never dreamed is suddenly about to FLOWER.
Chair-City? (Ind) (Tra)
And then there's Dave. He's locked in a closet because, as it turns out, he's still as useless as before, only bumbling into everything with no sense of direction. Well, when he's not equipped properly, he is, but once GLaDOs gets around to it...
...yeah, he's still useless. But now he can probably find his way around slightly better (read: actually move somewhere where there could be importance once in a while) and kill you. But not without getting your doorway jammed for a few seconds by tripping half the wires in the place.
I can hear it now... "Who's brilliant idea was it to put HIM back in again? He couldn't handle tripping on a sidewalk without dying!"
FNaGC?
*Video lynched by children*
Someone needs to seriously make that game.
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. And you know what the best part of all this is? You'll DO it. And then you'll lose to me again. And again. And again!!! Because you want a "happy ending." Because you "love your friends." Because you "never give up." Isn't that delicious? Your "determination." The power that let you get this far... It's gonna be your downfall!