Okay guys, so a thought's been going through my head.
DTG canon is semi-officially over. The plotlines sort of went all willy-nilly after DTG2 ended, and any semblence of a coherent story went down the drain sometime during my personal hiatus, don't know how or why, but the point is...
We have a loose canon. and it's loose because part of it's broken, not just a loose screw (although we have quite a few of those)

Anyways, the idea that cropped into my head, and this is just to run it past some people, is to start up a continuity reboot on the Minecraft Forums once one of the three current canon sessions ends (so that not everybody flutters off to the far corners of the internet. Give people a chance to know about this.).
I'm not 100% sure what'll be transferred and what won't, but one thing's for certain:
The events of the original DTG series are something NOBODY knows about, bar one particular character who will remain unnamed until... I dunno maybe it'll be a big reveal or something. I mean NOBODY, including the "omniscients" and godmodders.

Anyone have thoughts on this? My guess is that this'll be implemented when tvtropes2 finishes, as that seems closest to the finish line of the three ongoing sessions, but that'll still be a while.

Originally posted on 2016-03-23 22:57:00

I actually feel like you should start this once DTG0 ends, since having 2 sessions on the same forum might be, well, mildly disastrous in terms of splitting players. Hmm, or perhaps not long after we reach Yggdrasil on DTG0, as that will probably be a sufficiently big event as to drum up hype enough for a new session on the Forums. I mean, I like the idea, you should just probably wait until DTG0 ends/reaches a sufficiently big point, as two sessions on the same forum may well be problematic. DTG0 is also in the past, so that might provide some ideas/backstory for the reboot. So my recommendation is wait for a sufficiently big event in DTG0, such as hitting Yggdrasil, and then go from there. If TvTropes 2 ends before that, announce your intentions, maybe advise everyone to join DTG0 while the wait goes on, and then start the game later in DTG0's lifetime. I mean, not as if DTG0 needs more players, but some of the TvT2 players might like DTG0?

Originally posted on 2016-03-24 19:11:00

I'll be hoenst, if we are sincerely doing a continuity reboot then THE fact there was a continuity reboot shouldn't be a plot point. It should just be-even though technically there is credence for this exact phenomenon. I personally think that we should more treat it as if it was a separate game from THE 'original' DTGS with their own continuity; alternate continuity so to speak.

With that in mind, I personally think only a small (SMALL small) bit of what was from THE original DTGs should be carried over, most of which are pretty obvious.

THE Godmodder
Anti Godmodders
Anti-Chuck Norris Turret
Curse of Repetetiveness
*Narrative & Conflict

That's it. THE whole list of what we bring over to this new continuity is right there, and I've starred THE last item because we could theoretically get rid of that too for an even cleaner break, because how they're bieng used right now bothers me.

Note: THE is allcaps for reasons not related to emphasis. Can't explain.

Originally posted on 2016-04-01 02:37:00

I'd hate to be that ONE guy, but, uh, Universe Eaters are pretty long-lived. There's a particular one that I can think of that may cause a bit of an issue with the "only one person knows" dealio...

Originally posted on 2016-04-01 14:22:00

@tazz: Most of THE stuff is just a serial reboot, and THE one character who remembers... eh, it probably won't end up being a plot point. It's a potential 'maybe'.
I'm also keeping (sort of) more stuff than that for the purpose of having a world to start off of. I've taken things that I can without disrupting player shenanigans, but since DTG is a LOT more story-centric now, I'm going to need something to start off of and have a world in mind already, otherwise things are going to go WAY off tHe rails, REALLY fast.
Basically, more things than that are being carried over because I need to have SOMETHING available as a setting, since people are going to expect it.
On thE other hand, most of THe stuff that's getting carried over is doing so in a modified form so as to emphasize ThE break with THE original continuity.

But as it stands, yes, most things are being dropped, no, not as many as you're saying.
(weird capitalization in thE 'THEs' is because of a stupid thing zetaboards is doing, ame thing as tazz)

@engie: If tHE Narrative and Conflict got rebooted, so did you. Trust me on this, Engie isn't long-lived enough to survive tHe entire Multiverse going kablooey.

Originally posted on 2016-04-01 14:52:00

Objection to that one. He's canonically shown up inside The Arena, a place on the TVT forum where, surprise surprise, the Narrative and Conflict don't actually hold any real power. They're still there, but they can't really do anything. Which means it's entirely possible that one of the drones could hang out there for a bit, then meander back into the rebootverse once it starts being a thing. Unless you're going to tell me that you'll try taking control of canons that you aren't even permitted to take control of?

About the only real solution here that keeps us both happy would be a severe case of memory loss. Which is actually kind of in-character for him.

Originally posted on 2016-04-01 21:21:00

Sacred brought up the same issue, the answer to that?

The Arena is non-canon in DTG, just like most other forum games

Sorry engie, that's too easy a cop-out, it kinda can't be let to go through.

You're character is still around, just not the same engie as before. You can characterize them exactly the same as before, they just aren't allowed to have any recollection of the original DTG continuity.

Originally posted on 2016-04-01 22:05:00

Engie: Yeah, you are not getting through this one. Like Piono said, same as before, just no memories. Should be easy enough, right?

Seriously, in this case, no amount of power level or canonicity shenanigans will save you. Treat this reboot as if DTG in its entirety never existed at all - that's what a continuity reboot IS. Same characters, no memories. Let me tell you, if I was GMing that reboot and you pulled something like that out (a character remembering and saving themselves by hiding themselves in a Narrative-proof box somehow) I would flat-out ban or at least severely penalize you, because there is NO PLACE ANYWHERE the Narrative and Conflict do not reach. Engie would not survive this, any more than gorillaing Eternis or the OP King would. Everything, EVERYTHING is gone and rebuilt from the ground up in a continuity reboot. That is non-negotiable. The same characters may exist in the new iteration of all of reality, with the same personalities and all, but without their memories. Nothing, NOTHING, can save you, save hiding outside of Fiction itself, and that is blatantly impossible. Completely, incredibly impossible. And this is not the kind of impossible that can be breached with enough effort or enough threats to eat the impossible's universe, this is the real, hard, set-in-Darksteel/Monolithium/invulnerable material of your choice impossible. The kind of impossible that requires an entirely new, never-before-seen indestructible material to be set in for the level of impossible it is, a material that cannot be forged at all but which instead must be shaped using reality-warping powers - you're tricking reality into thinking it was always in that shape. And then, for good measure, once it's been shaped ONCE, it becomes invulnerable to that too, meaning you can't even reshape it afterward. That kind of impossible.

Originally posted on 2016-04-01 22:27:00

...Well. Guess you've forced my hand with this one.

Heh.

Fine. I'll follow the rules of your precious reboot. But, well... since I kind of hate you all now due to making me have to do this, you are NOT gonna like what happens next.



Originally posted on 2016-04-02 00:06:00

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FC: I am Totally Okay With This.

I think this'll be cool. Engie, crystal DOES have a point. It would be kinda silly to have some super mega op op hype hype character carry through the Reboot.

Originally posted on 2016-04-02 00:49:00

Nobody gets special treatment in a continuity reboot. Nobody. And that you were expecting special treatment enough to hate the people who denied you said special treatment just because your main RP character eats universes does not reflect well on you. Hell, Crystal exists in a state that could actually justify his retaining memories. But if this reboot happens, I'm still planning to not have him remember. Because I seem to actually have respect for the rules that Piono laid down.

Originally posted on 2016-04-02 00:58:00

But WHAT is the FUCKING POINT of having it be that only one character remembers? Without a proper explanation, how do you expect me to NOT be mad that I can't use someone in their current state who I have already established as a character?

Originally posted on 2016-04-02 01:00:00

I've established Crystal, and plan to use him in this reboot if it ever happens. You've established Engie, and can still use him in this reboot if it ever happens. The reboot amounts to basically a much more permanent and irreversible memory wipe - no reason you can't keep Engie in his current state and just say that some subtle changes to his initial game-starting state led to a more developed Engie who just happens to be at the same level of establishment/character development as the pre-reboot Engie, just without any memory of DTG. A memory wipe is not the total destruction you think it is, and this is a continuity reboot, starting conditions can be different. It'll be fine.

Originally posted on 2016-04-02 01:04:00

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You do realize that a memory wipe of sorts was LITERALLY THE IDEA THAT I POSED TO PREVENT THIS FROM BECOMING AN ARGUMENT, right?

Originally posted on 2016-04-02 01:30:00

I was talking about how the reboot could basically be just a memory wipe and you could keep the same characterization. It wasn't that I was objecting to, far from it, it was the idea that you would actually, with the 'just a memory wipe, it's still the same Engie' stratagem, be defying the idea that a reboot is a reboot is a reboot, full stop, nothing survives and everything is remade. Essentially all of Fiction being remade to the level of concepts. I was objecting to the very idea that anything could survive that, that anything at all would actually survive after that sort of Fiction-wide cataclysm.

Nevertheless, let's close the argument here.

Originally posted on 2016-04-02 02:01:00

I agree wholeheartedly with closing this like the bathroom door before taking a dump.

Originally posted on 2016-04-02 02:30:00

I am still holding onto the Psi Godmodding Wars idea. Just saying.

Originally posted on 2016-05-06 19:26:00

The issue is that that's already been rehashed thoroughly. Every major event in that war is already known. We kinda can't fight that one.

Originally posted on 2016-05-07 00:41:00

If the reboot's name isn't Super Destroy The Godmodder, I will be fairly disappointed.

Originally posted on 2016-05-31 06:56:00

That name is a bit lame, I'm thinking of maybe going with Godmodder Chronicles, but that's still pending. I might just do Destroy the Godmodder: somethingorother

Originally posted on 2016-05-31 17:05:00